ep. 96: How to Take a Hike

Hiking has been all the rage lately. But its popularity also reveals uncomfortable truths about who gets to belong in the great outdoors. This episode, Cristen and Caroline cross paths with geographer Carolyn Finney and Outdoor Journal Tour founders Kenya and Michelle Jackson-Saulters to map out the duality of America's hiking trails as sites of racial pain as well as Black joy and healing.

Editorial note: We apologize for not taking greater care in describing the relationship between our first guest, Dr. Carolyn Finney, and the “wealthy Jewish family” who owned the estate where she grew up. In doing so, we implicitly conflated being Jewish with being white. One bit of context that Dr. Finney mentioned in our interview, but we failed to include in the story - and in retrospect should have - was how the families' respective identities forged a nuanced bond. Regardless of their vast class difference and employer-employee hierarchy, both had experienced bigotry (anti-semitism and anti-Black racism, specifically).

Thank you to listener Bev for calling us in on these points! 

Love, Cristen and Caroline

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